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		By: To the Momastery crowd: My thoughts on yoga and meditation &#124; Mormon Women - About LDS Life and Belief		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[To the Momastery crowd: My thoughts on yoga and meditation &#124; Mormon Women - About LDS Life and Belief]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] matter where they are, no matter where they live, no matter what their spiritual tradition may be?  I&#8217;ve used this scripture before, but I will share it again.  For my soul delighteth in plainness; for after this manner doth the [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] matter where they are, no matter where they live, no matter what their spiritual tradition may be?  I&#8217;ve used this scripture before, but I will share it again.  For my soul delighteth in plainness; for after this manner doth the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Caroline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caroline]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beautiful. This is a life&#039;s work of reading and re-reading, viewing and reviewing, interpreting and reinterpreting. How grateful I am for a God who encourages and in ways demands my personal quest for truth and knowledge!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful. This is a life&#8217;s work of reading and re-reading, viewing and reviewing, interpreting and reinterpreting. How grateful I am for a God who encourages and in ways demands my personal quest for truth and knowledge!</p>
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		By: mormonwomen		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeff,

Thank you for your comment. I wholeheartedly agree that desire is key to the process of turning (or returning) to God. 

Thanks again for sharing your story. I think it&#039;s &quot;incompleteness&quot; is part of what makes it so compelling. We are, after all, here to walk by faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment. I wholeheartedly agree that desire is key to the process of turning (or returning) to God. </p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing your story. I think it&#8217;s &#8220;incompleteness&#8221; is part of what makes it so compelling. We are, after all, here to walk by faith.</p>
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		By: Jeff G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff G]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post and I agree with it 100%.  The only push back I would give is that it paints my return in colors that are a little too black and white by making my return look much more complete than it actually is.  As I said in the post you reference, &quot;Of course, realizing that you took a wrong turn is not the same thing as actually finding the right path, and I still struggle with the latter to this day.&quot;  Of course this caveat is hardly relevant to the main point of your post, so it&#039;s omission is more than forgivable. :)

A big part of my return is that I have had a desire to do so.  Very soon after my &quot;Why I Was Wrong&quot; post, I wrote another post wherein I said, &quot;On the other hand, given enough motivation and time, I suspect that even the most hard-nosed of rationalists/scientists/philosophers will eventually find a way to think themselves to the beliefs that they so badly long to have.  And this, in turn, fills me with hope.&quot;  This was my way of unpacking David Hume&#039;s famous claim that &quot;Reason is and ought only to be the slave of the passions.&quot;  Predictably, a lot of the more intellectually minded strongly objected to this overly provocative way of stating things, insisting that I was praising self-deceit and outright self-contradiction.  They simply could not understand that &quot;My post was not meant to suggest that in time we can or ought to violate the rules of rational inquiry such that we can pass from conceptual point A to point B. Rather, I meant to suggest that the rules of rational inquiry are sufficiently flexible, nuanced and versatile that, given enough time and motivation, it is pretty much possible to go from any point A to any point B without violating them.&quot;

(Here is the thread I&#039;ve been quoting from: http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2012/03/a-humean-hope/3011/)

I think the point I was making generalizes in just the way that you, Michelle, suggest in your post.  If a person really has a desire to find their way, then given enough time, effort and help from above, they will find their way.  The Lord will never try to reconvert us against our will, but He will provide a way for us to accomplish our righteous desires in His own time and in His own way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and I agree with it 100%.  The only push back I would give is that it paints my return in colors that are a little too black and white by making my return look much more complete than it actually is.  As I said in the post you reference, &#8220;Of course, realizing that you took a wrong turn is not the same thing as actually finding the right path, and I still struggle with the latter to this day.&#8221;  Of course this caveat is hardly relevant to the main point of your post, so it&#8217;s omission is more than forgivable. 🙂</p>
<p>A big part of my return is that I have had a desire to do so.  Very soon after my &#8220;Why I Was Wrong&#8221; post, I wrote another post wherein I said, &#8220;On the other hand, given enough motivation and time, I suspect that even the most hard-nosed of rationalists/scientists/philosophers will eventually find a way to think themselves to the beliefs that they so badly long to have.  And this, in turn, fills me with hope.&#8221;  This was my way of unpacking David Hume&#8217;s famous claim that &#8220;Reason is and ought only to be the slave of the passions.&#8221;  Predictably, a lot of the more intellectually minded strongly objected to this overly provocative way of stating things, insisting that I was praising self-deceit and outright self-contradiction.  They simply could not understand that &#8220;My post was not meant to suggest that in time we can or ought to violate the rules of rational inquiry such that we can pass from conceptual point A to point B. Rather, I meant to suggest that the rules of rational inquiry are sufficiently flexible, nuanced and versatile that, given enough time and motivation, it is pretty much possible to go from any point A to any point B without violating them.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Here is the thread I&#8217;ve been quoting from: <a href="http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2012/03/a-humean-hope/3011/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2012/03/a-humean-hope/3011/</a>)</p>
<p>I think the point I was making generalizes in just the way that you, Michelle, suggest in your post.  If a person really has a desire to find their way, then given enough time, effort and help from above, they will find their way.  The Lord will never try to reconvert us against our will, but He will provide a way for us to accomplish our righteous desires in His own time and in His own way.</p>
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