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		By: Women Seeking Christ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://womenseekingchrist.org/2011/05/13/ask-a-mormon-woman-why-do-mormons-have-so-many-kids/comment-page-2/#comment-916650&quot;&gt;Gospel&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Gospel,

I remember *feeling* pressure when I was of childbearing age, but what I came to understand was that that was not *doctrine.* That was me feeling afraid of the process of engaging in decision-making that was right for our situation, and learning to lay down the fear of what others thought. 

That&#039;s all easier said than done, but each couple has the responsibility to work with each other and with God to make these decisions.

And the reality is that every person, and every family, and every situation is different.

Some people struggle in large families, some don&#039;t.
Some struggle in small families, some don&#039;t.
Some leaders in our church have lots of children, some don&#039;t.

Just as you hope to not be judged for &quot;only&quot; having three (your words), please don&#039;t judge those who choose otherwise. Part of the teaching of the Church is that we shouldn&#039;t judge each other on these kinds of things. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://womenseekingchrist.org/2011/05/13/ask-a-mormon-woman-why-do-mormons-have-so-many-kids/comment-page-2/#comment-916650">Gospel</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Gospel,</p>
<p>I remember *feeling* pressure when I was of childbearing age, but what I came to understand was that that was not *doctrine.* That was me feeling afraid of the process of engaging in decision-making that was right for our situation, and learning to lay down the fear of what others thought. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all easier said than done, but each couple has the responsibility to work with each other and with God to make these decisions.</p>
<p>And the reality is that every person, and every family, and every situation is different.</p>
<p>Some people struggle in large families, some don&#8217;t.<br />
Some struggle in small families, some don&#8217;t.<br />
Some leaders in our church have lots of children, some don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Just as you hope to not be judged for &#8220;only&#8221; having three (your words), please don&#8217;t judge those who choose otherwise. Part of the teaching of the Church is that we shouldn&#8217;t judge each other on these kinds of things. </p>
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		By: Gospel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2022 04:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a lot of false doctrine in this and in most of the comments as well as false accusations about population etc. but what I wanted to add, is that there may be women who actually want huge families cause maybe they grew up in it and love anxiety. But there are a lot of women who are pressured into having more kids. My neighbor has 12, so I felt the pressure. My cousin’s husband wanted 9. She had 7 under 7 yrs old and he refused to help her with the children but still demanded more. Long story short, they are divorced now and she is stuck with a large family that she is having a hard time providing for. Thankfully, my husband doesn’t give into the pressure of having tons of kids. We only have 3, then he had a vasectomy.
Even growing up, the people who only had 3  kids in the church were looked down on. It may be getting better now, but the pressure is still real. The prophet has almost a dozen and others who have tons of kids are looked on as angels. I grew up in a larger family and can tell you first hand at how emotionally deprived the middle children are. Their older sisters are their mom. They learn everything from their older sisters, instead of the person who should be able to give them the personal time and attention they need. So many psychological issues come from having too many kids. I feel so bad for those who have large families. I am just able to give my kids each individual time while being amidst the million things that go on in life.  People think that we are just supposed to have a bunch of babies, but they miss the second half of that scripture, which is to teach and guide you children and not just pop them out. Say nothing of the physical toll on mother’s. I know of some who died in childbirth on their 7th kid because they “felt” they needed another. Now the husband is left with 7 kids. That’s not what God wants us to do to women or our society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of false doctrine in this and in most of the comments as well as false accusations about population etc. but what I wanted to add, is that there may be women who actually want huge families cause maybe they grew up in it and love anxiety. But there are a lot of women who are pressured into having more kids. My neighbor has 12, so I felt the pressure. My cousin’s husband wanted 9. She had 7 under 7 yrs old and he refused to help her with the children but still demanded more. Long story short, they are divorced now and she is stuck with a large family that she is having a hard time providing for. Thankfully, my husband doesn’t give into the pressure of having tons of kids. We only have 3, then he had a vasectomy.<br />
Even growing up, the people who only had 3  kids in the church were looked down on. It may be getting better now, but the pressure is still real. The prophet has almost a dozen and others who have tons of kids are looked on as angels. I grew up in a larger family and can tell you first hand at how emotionally deprived the middle children are. Their older sisters are their mom. They learn everything from their older sisters, instead of the person who should be able to give them the personal time and attention they need. So many psychological issues come from having too many kids. I feel so bad for those who have large families. I am just able to give my kids each individual time while being amidst the million things that go on in life.  People think that we are just supposed to have a bunch of babies, but they miss the second half of that scripture, which is to teach and guide you children and not just pop them out. Say nothing of the physical toll on mother’s. I know of some who died in childbirth on their 7th kid because they “felt” they needed another. Now the husband is left with 7 kids. That’s not what God wants us to do to women or our society.</p>
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		By: mormonwomen		</title>
		<link>https://womenseekingchrist.org/2011/05/13/ask-a-mormon-woman-why-do-mormons-have-so-many-kids/comment-page-2/#comment-819963</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 06:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://womenseekingchrist.org/2011/05/13/ask-a-mormon-woman-why-do-mormons-have-so-many-kids/comment-page-2/#comment-817095&quot;&gt;Dharma&lt;/a&gt;.

I decided to approve this comment so as to let people recognize the kind of thought processes that are sometimes used to try to explain (or explain away) our history, our beliefs, and our lifestyle. 

My invitation is to seek understanding about Mormons from Mormons, especially from studying the teachings of the leaders of the Church and personal exploration of scriptural truth, including from the Book of Mormon. You can&#039;t understand, for example, our celebration of marriage, family, and having children unless you understand our doctrine of the eternal nature of the family and the whole purpose of the earth and its creation. Saving the earth for the sake of saving it is not our end goal, even as caring for the earth matters.   

1 Nephi 17:36
36 Behold, the Lord hath created the earth that it should be inhabited....

I am reminded of something one of our leaders, Russell M. Nelson once said:

&quot;[O]ur religion is known by the fruit of its branches. Recently I met with government officials from a land far from here who were deeply impressed with the Church and its efforts throughout the world. They liked our teachings about the family and wanted copies of our proclamation to the world and guidebooks for family home evening. They wanted to know more about our welfare program and humanitarian help. We complied as we could and then shifted attention from what we do to why we do it. I explained with an analogy to a tree. “You are attracted by various fruits of our faith,” I said. “They are plentiful and powerful. But you cannot savor this fruit unless you know the tree that produces it. And you cannot understand the tree unless you comprehend its roots. With our religion, you cannot have the fruits without the roots.” This they understood.&quot; https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2004/04/roots-and-branches?lang=eng

On the flip side of admiration that then-Elder Nelson talks about, critics of the Church or of Mormons also tend to think that they can understand our faith by trying to understand its branches. But you can&#039;t understand our faith and choices (paying tithing, getting married, having families) without understand the roots of our doctrinal teachings and how it is that we come to know the truth of those things. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://womenseekingchrist.org/2011/05/13/ask-a-mormon-woman-why-do-mormons-have-so-many-kids/comment-page-2/#comment-817095">Dharma</a>.</p>
<p>I decided to approve this comment so as to let people recognize the kind of thought processes that are sometimes used to try to explain (or explain away) our history, our beliefs, and our lifestyle. </p>
<p>My invitation is to seek understanding about Mormons from Mormons, especially from studying the teachings of the leaders of the Church and personal exploration of scriptural truth, including from the Book of Mormon. You can&#8217;t understand, for example, our celebration of marriage, family, and having children unless you understand our doctrine of the eternal nature of the family and the whole purpose of the earth and its creation. Saving the earth for the sake of saving it is not our end goal, even as caring for the earth matters.   </p>
<p>1 Nephi 17:36<br />
36 Behold, the Lord hath created the earth that it should be inhabited&#8230;.</p>
<p>I am reminded of something one of our leaders, Russell M. Nelson once said:</p>
<p>&#8220;[O]ur religion is known by the fruit of its branches. Recently I met with government officials from a land far from here who were deeply impressed with the Church and its efforts throughout the world. They liked our teachings about the family and wanted copies of our proclamation to the world and guidebooks for family home evening. They wanted to know more about our welfare program and humanitarian help. We complied as we could and then shifted attention from what we do to why we do it. I explained with an analogy to a tree. “You are attracted by various fruits of our faith,” I said. “They are plentiful and powerful. But you cannot savor this fruit unless you know the tree that produces it. And you cannot understand the tree unless you comprehend its roots. With our religion, you cannot have the fruits without the roots.” This they understood.&#8221; <a href="https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2004/04/roots-and-branches?lang=eng" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2004/04/roots-and-branches?lang=eng</a></p>
<p>On the flip side of admiration that then-Elder Nelson talks about, critics of the Church or of Mormons also tend to think that they can understand our faith by trying to understand its branches. But you can&#8217;t understand our faith and choices (paying tithing, getting married, having families) without understand the roots of our doctrinal teachings and how it is that we come to know the truth of those things. </p>
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		By: Dharma		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the early stages of the LDS church’s life 100+ years ago, in order to grow and sustain the faith, the church encouraged both polygamy and for each church member to have a large family in order to grow and sustain the faith. Having a large # of children also meant more tithing money down the line when the children themselves grew up and started working and could thus give back more and enrich the establishment… It is for this reason alone that Mormons don’t indulge in certain luxuries such as drinking Tea or Coffee etc. either as that would mean less money left for the church’s coffers.

However, now that the Mormon church has acquired more followers than the great Jewish religion has Jews all over the world, it is now important for the Church to revise this belief of having too many children and think of Mother Earth. Each additional mouth to feed in this overpopulated Earth of 7+ Billion people means one square mile of ocean life destroyed, 14 sq miles of forest land cleared and the destruction of habitat for no less than 15 sub-species on earth to sustain that one extra person… Surely God wouldn’t support that!

And whatever the US constitution says about people having the right to practice their faith and propagate any religion of their choice yaada yaada, it is ESSENTIAL for all humans to realize that we are residents on a space ship, a self sustaining, water containing, oxygen rich and limited land area providing satellite, the ONLY ONE in the entire Universe that can sustain and nurture life — called Planet Earth — and that we ALL share with all the endangered species whether a macaw, or a shark or a tiger that is going extinct all over due to humans overbreeding. Plus as someone whose great grandparents and grand parents themselves had no less than 7 children, I can clearly state how if NOT controlled, overbreeding can hurt a country — look at India and China. Or worse, look at how the middle eastern countries are all falling apart with war prevalent all over — this is because way back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s when the Gulf countries discovered that they were floating on oil and thus sinking in $, they threw their Bedouin way of existence in harmony with the desert and instead of stopping at 2 kids, went on to have an average of 7 children per family. How can a land that does not have water and is non-conducive to vegetation and that barely supported 3 per family, now sustain 7? No wonder that as time went on it manifested in the form of familial and clan tensions leading to the current day wars that caused the destruction of their existential lifestyle… If the world does not contain its population now, we will have chaos in the future…

With this I urge all Mormons to change their beliefs and stop at 2 children. Several of you don’t believe in polygamy anymore, right? So similarly suggest rethinking this belief of having too many children, for the same of mother Earth… Please don’t say that it is your choice and others have no right to comment. That is NOT true because we all share this Earth and it is every human’s responsibility to ensure that our ocean’s are not polluted and the forests are not destroyed and the various species don’t go extinct. It is important we leave a great world out there for future generations, NOT an over-bred lineage… Please think and consider.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early stages of the LDS church’s life 100+ years ago, in order to grow and sustain the faith, the church encouraged both polygamy and for each church member to have a large family in order to grow and sustain the faith. Having a large # of children also meant more tithing money down the line when the children themselves grew up and started working and could thus give back more and enrich the establishment… It is for this reason alone that Mormons don’t indulge in certain luxuries such as drinking Tea or Coffee etc. either as that would mean less money left for the church’s coffers.</p>
<p>However, now that the Mormon church has acquired more followers than the great Jewish religion has Jews all over the world, it is now important for the Church to revise this belief of having too many children and think of Mother Earth. Each additional mouth to feed in this overpopulated Earth of 7+ Billion people means one square mile of ocean life destroyed, 14 sq miles of forest land cleared and the destruction of habitat for no less than 15 sub-species on earth to sustain that one extra person… Surely God wouldn’t support that!</p>
<p>And whatever the US constitution says about people having the right to practice their faith and propagate any religion of their choice yaada yaada, it is ESSENTIAL for all humans to realize that we are residents on a space ship, a self sustaining, water containing, oxygen rich and limited land area providing satellite, the ONLY ONE in the entire Universe that can sustain and nurture life — called Planet Earth — and that we ALL share with all the endangered species whether a macaw, or a shark or a tiger that is going extinct all over due to humans overbreeding. Plus as someone whose great grandparents and grand parents themselves had no less than 7 children, I can clearly state how if NOT controlled, overbreeding can hurt a country — look at India and China. Or worse, look at how the middle eastern countries are all falling apart with war prevalent all over — this is because way back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s when the Gulf countries discovered that they were floating on oil and thus sinking in $, they threw their Bedouin way of existence in harmony with the desert and instead of stopping at 2 kids, went on to have an average of 7 children per family. How can a land that does not have water and is non-conducive to vegetation and that barely supported 3 per family, now sustain 7? No wonder that as time went on it manifested in the form of familial and clan tensions leading to the current day wars that caused the destruction of their existential lifestyle… If the world does not contain its population now, we will have chaos in the future…</p>
<p>With this I urge all Mormons to change their beliefs and stop at 2 children. Several of you don’t believe in polygamy anymore, right? So similarly suggest rethinking this belief of having too many children, for the same of mother Earth… Please don’t say that it is your choice and others have no right to comment. That is NOT true because we all share this Earth and it is every human’s responsibility to ensure that our ocean’s are not polluted and the forests are not destroyed and the various species don’t go extinct. It is important we leave a great world out there for future generations, NOT an over-bred lineage… Please think and consider.</p>
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		By: Shileez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have any offense about Mormans, btw, if u choose to believe in a magical powerful immortal being, you go do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any offense about Mormans, btw, if u choose to believe in a magical powerful immortal being, you go do that.</p>
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		By: Shileez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 22:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ummm, wouldn&#039;t having so many kids cause global warming? Which would lead to pollution, and starvation, then everywhere would be over populated, and food would be less, and then the world would die. I wish everyone would just have one or two kids, not 5-8. You don&#039;t need to bring kids down from God. I think they would like to stay there, if Heaven is such a good place]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm, wouldn&#8217;t having so many kids cause global warming? Which would lead to pollution, and starvation, then everywhere would be over populated, and food would be less, and then the world would die. I wish everyone would just have one or two kids, not 5-8. You don&#8217;t need to bring kids down from God. I think they would like to stay there, if Heaven is such a good place</p>
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		By: mormonwomen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2015 23:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barbara,
It sounds like you  have had some bad experiences with members of our church. I&#039;m sorry to hear that. I don&#039;t know if it helps to know that we are explicitly taught not to &#039;hate on&#039; anyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara,<br />
It sounds like you  have had some bad experiences with members of our church. I&#8217;m sorry to hear that. I don&#8217;t know if it helps to know that we are explicitly taught not to &#8216;hate on&#8217; anyone.</p>
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		By: barbara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[for more people to hate on anyone not mormon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for more people to hate on anyone not mormon.</p>
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		By: Lola		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 15:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For those talking about poverty, water, etc, I was born and live in a third world country, certainly belonging to a poor or rich family has nothing to do with your values, neither becoming from a large or small family.  But For what I can experience in my country, most of the poor people are having children in a uncontrolled manner, these children become criminals early in their lives, but for those who are a large, poor, mormon family it&#039;s another story, in some way they deal to have many children, teach them values and provide their needs, even though most of poor mormon families actually have a different perspective and decide to plan for their lives and have less children, if all families would be mormon in my country, this would be such a different place.  A child can imply expenses, but the first and most important things they need, God gave them for free: love and breastmilk, I think God wants to send us a message with that, even if a child is born in the middle of nowhere, the mother will have milk for them.  And what about unplanned pregnancies? Even if we decide to have no kids, God can make it happen.  But I want to make clear for all non-mormons out there: we are not taught to have many children, we have no obligation to have them, we can decide, use contraceptive methods and have the children we can have, but I am the one who thinks that I will have as many children as my economy lets me, that means if I can provide for only one children, I will have only one, if I can provide for seven, I will have seven, and that is where free agency comes along with RESPONSIBILITY.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those talking about poverty, water, etc, I was born and live in a third world country, certainly belonging to a poor or rich family has nothing to do with your values, neither becoming from a large or small family.  But For what I can experience in my country, most of the poor people are having children in a uncontrolled manner, these children become criminals early in their lives, but for those who are a large, poor, mormon family it&#8217;s another story, in some way they deal to have many children, teach them values and provide their needs, even though most of poor mormon families actually have a different perspective and decide to plan for their lives and have less children, if all families would be mormon in my country, this would be such a different place.  A child can imply expenses, but the first and most important things they need, God gave them for free: love and breastmilk, I think God wants to send us a message with that, even if a child is born in the middle of nowhere, the mother will have milk for them.  And what about unplanned pregnancies? Even if we decide to have no kids, God can make it happen.  But I want to make clear for all non-mormons out there: we are not taught to have many children, we have no obligation to have them, we can decide, use contraceptive methods and have the children we can have, but I am the one who thinks that I will have as many children as my economy lets me, that means if I can provide for only one children, I will have only one, if I can provide for seven, I will have seven, and that is where free agency comes along with RESPONSIBILITY.</p>
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		By: Kristin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2014 07:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow! I am offended by several of the comments on here and I am not a Mormon. Mormon couples choose to have large families because they value family. How big or small their family is, is truly not our concern. If you asked your grandparents or great grandparents about their families, I can assure you the majority were from VERY large families and that is of ANY religion or no religion at all. People used to have very large families. It was not out of the ordinary for someone to have 8 kids. Now, people are so appalled by it and have the audacity to make a comment about how they afford them. They take care of their kids. You will notice she never even got ugly with you after responding to your rude comments. That is because her mom raised her to treat others and she would like to be treated, a simple value your mothers failed to instill in you who made those comments. Shame on you! No matter what religion or none at all, you should have a shred of decency and kindness toward another person. To criticize women of a certain religion because they choose to have large families is religious persecution and makes you a Bigot!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I am offended by several of the comments on here and I am not a Mormon. Mormon couples choose to have large families because they value family. How big or small their family is, is truly not our concern. If you asked your grandparents or great grandparents about their families, I can assure you the majority were from VERY large families and that is of ANY religion or no religion at all. People used to have very large families. It was not out of the ordinary for someone to have 8 kids. Now, people are so appalled by it and have the audacity to make a comment about how they afford them. They take care of their kids. You will notice she never even got ugly with you after responding to your rude comments. That is because her mom raised her to treat others and she would like to be treated, a simple value your mothers failed to instill in you who made those comments. Shame on you! No matter what religion or none at all, you should have a shred of decency and kindness toward another person. To criticize women of a certain religion because they choose to have large families is religious persecution and makes you a Bigot!</p>
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